Hayden Hillier-Smith is one of YouTube’s most famous editors. Not only does he host The Editing Podcast, but he was once the lead editor for Logan Paul.

In an almost forty-minute interview with this website’s founder, Finzar, the two editors discuss the ins and outs of editing on YouTube. Hillier-Smith details exactly how he got the job for Logan Paul and offers some editing tips everyone should hear.

“There was something so funny about making fun of what [Logan] was doing,” he says. “That is why Logan attracted such an audience because those videos were taking the piss out of Logan.”

If you’re an aspiring editor, it’s a conversation well worth watching all the way through. You can also watch a shorter break-down of the conversation – along with interviews with other editors – in Finzar’s video about talking to the world’s biggest editors.